a psychiatrist.
Roloff was equally tweedy and even more grey than Fleming though about ten years younger.
âDr. Roloff has been kind enough to give me some ideas for my next picture,â Fleming explained, âa version of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.â
I must have looked surprised because Fleming added, âI know its been done with Freddie March. A good film, but I have some ideas and Spencer Tracy is interested. But thatâs another game. What can I do for you, Peters? Can we get you something to eat?â
âNothing to eat, just some information and Iâll get out of your conference. The police talked to you today about an argument you saw between two people dressed in Munchkin suits.â
Fleming nodded and I went on.
âWhat exactly did you see and hear?â
âVery little,â said Fleming, taking a belt of coffee. âI was coming back from breakfast with Clark Gable, and we saw the two little people arguing. Clark looked. I wanted nothing to do with it. I had a year of working with them. Most of them were fine, but a lot of them were a pain in the ass. They argued, disappeared, showed up late. Once they screwed up a take on purpose by singing âDing Dong the Bitch is Deadâ. I didnât notice it. The sound man didnât notice it. We had to reshoot it.â
âItâs not surprising,â Roloff put in, âshort people, midgets especially, are sometimes inclined to be highly agressive toward normal size people. Theyâre also inclined to use obscenity more than the average to assert their adultness, to overcompensate. I had one midget as a patient who knew he was overcompensating with big cigars and sexual overtures to full-sized women. He knew he looked ridiculous and obscene to others, but he couldnât stop. It was a kind of self hate, a punishment for himself. Itâs hard to live your life knowing that whenever you go out on the street people will stare at you. Exhibitionism may result or the person may become a shy and bitter recluse.â
âJust like movie stars,â I added.
âSure,â said Roloff.
âSorry I canât help you, Peters,â Fleming joined in. âI can give you a lot of stories about Munchkins, but I donât think it will help. It just supports what Dr. Roloff has been saying. Iâll give you an example. One of them got drunk one day and almost drowned in a toilet. Another time one of them pulled down his drawers in a crowd scene. We didnât even notice that the first time through the rushes. As for the fight this morning, when I saw it was two little people in Munchkin suits, I paid no attention. I stepped in between them a few times when we were shooting the picture, and I had no desire to take the abuse again. When I saw those two this morning, I didnât know why they were wearing costumes from the movie and I didnât give a Hungarian crap.â
He paused to look around the room and regain his composure. The thought of the Munchkins had sent his temper flying.
âI like what we did on that picture,â he continued patting down his hair. âI came in on it late after a couple of other directors, and I was pulled off it early to take over Gone With The Wind. Still, I spent more than a year on Oz and it was the toughest damn thing Iâve ever done. Those two pictures have been damn good for me, but I wouldnât want to make either one of them again. Even if no one remembers Oz, I will and with mixed memories.â
âI like it,â I said.
âItâs a strange movie,â said Roloff pushing his cup away and fiddling with his pipe. âDepending on who views it and whatâs going on in his or her life, it can be a lot of things.â
âLike what?â I asked.
âItâs a childâs dream of accepting the adult world. A girl at puberty dreams of seeking the aid of a magical wizard, aided by three male figures, each not quite a
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