interest that produces the class struggle.â
âBut there should be no conflict of interest!â I cried.
âI agree with you heartily,â he answered. âThat is what we socialists are trying to bring about,âthe abolition of the conflict of interest. Pardon me. Let me read an extract.â He took his book and turned back several pages. âPage one hundred and twenty-six: âThe cycle of class struggles which began with the dissolution of rude, tribal communism and the rise of private property will end with the passing of private property in the means of social existence.â â
âBut I disagree with you,â the Bishop interposed, his pale, ascetic face betraying by a faint glow the intensity of his feelings. âYour premise is wrong. There is no such thing as a conflict of interest between labor and capitalâor, rather, there ought not to be.â
âThank you,â Ernest said gravely. âBy that last statement you have given me back my premise.â
âBut why should there be a conflict?â the Bishop demanded warmly.
Ernest shrugged his shoulders. âBecause we are so made, I guess.â
âBut we are not so made!â cried the other.
âAre you discussing the ideal man?â Ernest asked, ââunselfish and godlike, and so few in numbers as to be practically non-existent, or are you discussing the common and ordinary average man?â
âThe common and ordinary man,â was the answer.
âWho is weak and fallible, prone to error?â
Bishop Morehouse nodded.
âAnd petty and selfish?â
Again he nodded.
âWatch out!â Ernest warned. âI said âselfish.â â
âThe average man is selfish,â the Bishop affirmed valiantly.
âWants all he can get?â
âWants all he can getâtrue but deplorable.â
âThen Iâve got you.â Ernestâs jaw snapped like a trap. âLet me show you. Here is a man who works on the street railways.â
âHe couldnât work if it werenât for capital,â the Bishop interrupted.
âTrue, and you will grant that capital would perish if there were no labor to earn the dividends.â
The Bishop was silent.
âWonât you?â Ernest insisted.
The Bishop nodded.
âThen our statements cancel each other,â Ernest said in a matter-of-fact tone, âand we are where we were. Now to begin again. The workingmen on the street railway furnish the labor. The stockholders furnish the capital. By the joint effort of the workingmen and the capital, money is earned. 16 They divide between them this money that is earned. Capitalâs share is called âdividends.â Laborâs share is called âwages.â â
âVery good,â the Bishop interposed. âAnd there is no reason that the division should not be amicable.â
âYou have already forgotten what we had agreed upon,â Ernest replied. âWe agreed that the average man is selfish. He is the man that is. You have gone up in the air and are arranging a division between the kind of men that ought to be but are not. But to return to the earth, the workingman, being selfish, wants all he can get in the division. The capitalist, being selfish, wants all he can get in the division. When there is only so much of the same thing, and when two men want all they can get of the same thing, there is a conflict of interest. This is the conflict of interest between labor and capital. And it is an irreconcilable conflict. As long as workingmen and capitalists exist, they will continue to quarrel over the division. If you were in San Francisco this afternoon, youâd have to walk. There isnât a street car running.â
âAnother strike?â 17 the Bishop queried with alarm.
âYes, theyâre quarrelling over the division of the earnings of the street railways.â
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