on all da lights and see who sittinâ where...â
Phil Winters could have a conversation about Armageddon and still keep a smile on his face. This little conversation about race was no different. It was interesting to watch him keep his cheekbones high and his pearly whites showing, but it wasnât a surprise. The surprise was from looking in his eyes up close, during this conversation, and seeing the fear flash through them like the lights on top of a police car.
âNo, no, thatâs not necessary,â he said.
The host still had his smile, but he couldnât hide the red cheeks and forehead.
âBottom line isââ I began to get heartburn as I was talking, ââI donât believe we got no more racism in America. All dat stuff was back in the past, man.â
Phil Winters broke character for about a half a second, and looked at me completely shocked before he caught himself and put his smile back on. Clearing his throat, he took in a deep breath and kept going.
âSo...getting down to business, youâve had an amazing couple of months, have you not?â
He was desperate to change the subject, as was I.
âYeah, most definitely. Last few months have been crazy.â
âCan you tell us how everything got started?â
He was talking about the diss record, but I saw an opportunity to be coy. I couldnât pass it up.
âWell, it all started back when I was eight, and I heard my first rap song on the babysitterâs radio...â
I could hear the chuckles from the crowd. Winters smiled at the lighthearted joke.
âAs much as weâd all love to hear your life story, I was talking about your musical career. Specifically, the record you made that had such a big impact on the hip-hop world. What is it called again?â
I had to smile slightly as I recounted the name Iâd given the song.
âPiss On The Silenzas.â
Phil leaned forward and rested his chin in his palm.
âAnd we know who it was about, but tell us the story of how it came to be.â
âWell, I got word one day that Trigga and Barrel were makinâ a diss record âbout me...â
âTrigga and Barrel would be the two members of P. Silenzas, right?â
âYeah, yeah, datâs them.â
âAnd who did you hear about their diss record from?â
âSome of my inside sources let me know âbout it.â
âCare to share any names?â
I gave Phil a look and shook my head. Not wanting to break the momentum, he picked back up with his next question.
âOkay, so, you decide to make âPiss On The Silenzas.â Did you know when you were making it that it would be such a huge hit?â
âNaw, I had no idea. I mean, it just took off. Label put it out as a single, and it was curtains from there.â
âWhat do you think made it such a big hit?â
I paused for a second to think.
âIt was all âbout the timing, Phil. They was getting ready to release their first single, which happened to be âbout me. Matter-of-fact, my label was so slick wid it that we got my single put out the day after their single came out. Made it seem like we was sittinâ back waitinâ for these niggas to make da first move.â
âAnd the name of their singleâand I know we canât say the real name on the airâbut the title of the song they made...?â
ââB-word Niggaâ was the name of their song. Donât worry, Phil, Iâm not gonâ cuss on ya show. Iâm not tryinâ to get you in no trouble.â
âWell, I appreciate that. Why do you think they named their song that, though?â
âWell, Iâm Da Nigga, so I guess maybe they was tryinâ to be creative. Somebody shoulda told âem they was messinâ with da wrong one.â
âWell, I would guess that they know that now. Weâre going to show a quick clip from the
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