one man â and that, remember, was in Victorian times, when conditions for most people were a lot rougher than they are now.â
âI imagine they were,â Baxter said.
âSo we have cells which the Victorians considered were just about good enough for
one
prisoner, and weâre putting two or even three men in them now, because we donât have any choice in the matter. And if one of those men has the shits in the middle of the night, the others have to live with the stink until morning slopping out time.â
âI know what youâre doing,â Baxter said quietly.
âDo you?â Jeffries asked, with a hint of aggression in his voice. âThen why donât you explain to me exactly what that is.â
âYouâre trying to show me what strain youâre all under â the prisoners as well as the guards. You hope that by doing that, youâll get me to make allowances for the fact that things donât always go as they should do.â
âAnd will you?â Jeffries asked.
âIâm not some academic whoâs just stepped out of his ivory tower and expects everything beyond that tower to be perfect,â Baxter said. âI live in the real world. I run a police force that operates within a flawed system, and I accept that certain corners have to be cut and certain regulations ignored in order to make that system work. So sometimes, when I see there are things not being done exactly by the book, I deliberately look the other way.â
âThatâs a sensible attitude,â Jeffries said.
âBut there are principles I have to stick by, and actions that I canât ignore,â Baxter continued. âI will not tolerate my officers taking bribes, intimidating witnesses or doing favours for their mates, for example, and if they cross any of those lines, there are no second chances â theyâre out of the force and probably in gaol.â
âThatâs all very interesting, but Iâm much more interested in finding out how youâll apply these âprinciplesâ of yours to this prison,â Jeffries said.
âOh, thatâs very simple,â Baxter told him. âIf thereâs nothing your men could have done to prevent Jeremy Templarâs suicide, theyâre in the clear, and if there was something they could have done, then theyâre not.â
âWeâve already explained that there werenât the funds to box in all the pipes,â Jeffries said.
âAnd I accept that,â Baxter countered. âI also accept that if a man really wants to kill himself, heâll eventually find a way, however careful those around him are.â
âIn that case, I donât see why youâre here at all,â Jeffries said.
âDonât you?â Baxter asked. âThen perhaps Iâd better explain it to you. Templar committed suicide because he found life intolerable, and the reason he found life intolerable was because of the attacks on him by other prisoners. So the real question is â could your men have prevented those attacks?â
âI donât think that
is
the real question,â Jeffries said.
âThen what is?â
âThe real question is not whether they could have prevented those
four
attacks â itâs how many more attacks on him there
might have
been if my lads hadnât been doing the best they could in nearly impossible circumstances. And weâll never know the answer to that â because if something didnât happen, you canât prove it was ever going to.â
He had a point, Baxter admitted. And maybe he was right â maybe his men, rather than being
inefficient
, had been as efficient as was possible in the circumstances. But at this stage of the inquiry, it was far too early to reach any such conclusion.
âWho fills in the time sheets?â he asked the chief officer.
âWhat do you mean by time sheets?â
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